5 February 2008
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Joy Bischoff Says:
5 February 2008 at 10:20 am.
Sharon sent this and I thought it was great and wanted everyone to see it:
WHICH STRATEGY FOR IMMIGRATION VOTING TODAY?
Those voting in the Democratic Primaries face no significant difference between Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton on immigration issues.
But those of you voting in the Republican Primaries are telling me of the following ways you plan to vote:
* No. 1 — THE PRINCIPLED OPTION: No matter what your candidate’s chances are of winning your own state, you tell me you will vote for your favorite among the anti-amnesty Paul, Huckabee and Romney. You will vote on principle for the candidate who best represents all of your concerns, even if that helps the pro-amnesty McCain win your state.
* No. 2 — THE PRACTICAL OPTION TO HELP ONE CANDIDATE DEFEAT McCAIN: Because Romney is ahead of Huckabee and Paul in the national polls, and is far ahead in delegates won and in money available to continue to fight, many of you recommend that all anti-amnesty voters choose Romney — even if he is in third place in the polls of your state. The idea is to stop splitting delegates among more than one anti-amnesty candidate and enable one to truly challenge McCain at the convention.
* No. 3 — THE PRACTICAL OPTION TO DENY THE PRO-AMNESTY McCAIN AS MANY DELEGATES AS POSSIBLE: Those of you advocating this option are interested in shifting enough votes from the third and fourth place candidates in any state to the highest ranking anti-amnesty candidate. Your goal is to help the anti-amnesty candidate who is best poised to take delegates away from McCain in your state.
If you like the third option, read below for which anti-amnesty candidate is in the lead in the election states today.
IF YOU WANT TO VOTE TO KEEP McCAIN FROM GETTING DELEGATES IN YOUR STATE …
It would seem to be a significant victory if McCain can be stopped from getting any more than 700 of the more than 1,000 delegates at stake today. That (combined with the nearly 100 he already has) would leave him at least 400 short of the 1,191 needed to secure the GOP nomination.
A major victory would be to keep him below 600. That would give anti-amnesty forces some time in the remaining Primary states to better educate Republican voters about Sen. McCain’s stated commitment to giving amnesty to at least 10 million illegal aliens and to dramatically increasing the importation of foreign workers to compete with American workers.
Keeping McCain’s wins under 600 — or even under 700 — is going to be tough because polls show McCain with overwhelming leads in winner-take-all states of New York (101 delegates), New Jersey (52) and Connecticut (30).
This next section is highly controversial because every Republican and Democratic candidate has support among a segment of you getting this email. Please understand that I am making no endorsements here.
But what I am doing is showing you what you would do if your top priority today is to keep pro-amnesty McCain from getting delegates.
Paul, Huckabee and Romney have all made explicit promises to oppose legalization (amnesty) of illegal aliens and to use an Attrition Through Enforcement policy that drives illegal aliens back to their home countries.
(Nearly all of the surveys listed below were taken over the weekend.)
If you are willing to switch your vote from your favorite candidate to a candidate best able to defeat McCain today, you might:
VOTE FOR RON PAUL in ….
* ALASKA: The Wall Street Journal suggests Paul might be poised to win this state.
VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY in …
* ARIZONA: Deep resentments among Republicans about their long-time home-state Senator McCain has left him with a bit of vulnerability and perhaps the opportunity for a Super Bowl type upset. The latest Rasmussen polls show McCain at 43%, followed by Romney at 34% (and Huckabee at 9% and Paul at 7%). A truly serious get-out-the-vote drive provides the slightest possibility of the embarrassing upset for McCain.
* CALIFORNIA: The latest SurveyUSA shows McCain at 39% and Romney at 36%. But Rasmussen’s poll of the last two days shows Romney ahead with 40% over McCain’s 32% (and 12% for Huckabee and 5% for Paul). A McCain loss in California would give a lot of people hope in the remaining Primary states. Anti-amnesty votes should coalesce around Romney for a big news media victory and lots of delegates.
* COLORADO: Romney should take this from McCain if the anti-amnesty voters stick with him.
* GEORGIA: According to the latest Insider Advantage poll, McCain at 32% is in a dead heat with Romney at 31% (followed by Huckabee at 26% and Paul at 3%). Georgia is one of the three most aggressive states in trying to drive illegal aliens away. Unless some of Huckabee’s and Paul’s supporters switch to Romney, the state may send pro-amnesty McCain delegates to the convention.
* ILLINOIS: The latest SurveyUSA shows McCain at 38% and Romney at 23% (with Huckabee at 25% and Paul at 7%). This is a real long-shot that will require incredible turnout by anti-amnesty voters.
* MASSACHUSETTS: Make sure Romney takes the delegates of his home state.
* MONTANA: The winner takes all 25 delegates.
* NORTH DAKOTA: Romney should be the frontrunner for the anti-amnesty vote here.
* UTAH: Romney appears poised to take all these delegates.
VOTE FOR MIKE HUCKABEE in …
* ALABAMA: Latest SurveyUSA poll shows McCain at 37% and Huckabee at 35% (with Romney at 19% and Paul at 6%). Romney and Paul voters could easily push Huckabee vote total to defeat McCain. Huckabee over the weekend signed the long and detailed immigration pledge of Sen. Sessions, Alabama’s wildly popular champion opponent of illegal immigration. Alabamans despise amnesty. How could this state go for McCain? The only way is for the anti-amnesty vote to be divided.
* ARKANSAS: Huckabee should win in his home state. Make sure McCain doesn’t pull an upset.
* MISSOURI: This is a winner-take-all state. According to the latest SurveyUSA, McCain at 33% will take all of Missouri’s 58 delegates unless anti-amnesty forces coalesce behind one candidate. Although Romney is close at 28% (and Paul at 4%), the best chance for defeating McCain appears to be switching votes to Huckabee who at 31% is virtually tied with McCain.
* OKLAHOMA: Latest SurveyUSA shows McCain at 37% and Huckabee at 32% (with Romney at 23% and Paul at 3%). That is striking distance in a state that is one of the most anti-illegal-immigration in the nation. Why would Oklahomans give their delegates to Amnesty King McCain? Because the anti-amnesty vote is split.
* TENNESSEE: Latest Insider Advantage poll shows McCain with 32% just barely ahead of Huckabee at 30% (with Romney at 22% and Paul at 6%). This is another strongly anti-amnesty state that should easily help Huckabee take these delegates away from McCain.
Joy Bischoff Says:
5 February 2008 at 10:21 am.
This email from Sharon’s husband, Peter, (not the Peter we know here) was enlightening. Especially since I learned last night about push-polling from the McCain campaign in CA telling people that McCain is the only candidate who will be able to take care of the serious immigration problem. I am afraid that man will stop at no lie to win. Here’s the email:
DEAR OPPONENTS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION,
Today’s polls show John McCain still poised to win a large majority of the delegates on Tuesday …
… unless the 500,000 of you can reach out to millions of Republican friends, families and acquaintances to correct their incredibly mistaken notion about McCain’s immigration positions.
The Washington Post/ABC News poll this weekend asked likely Republican voters which candidate, “regardless of who you may support,” do you “trust most to handle immigration issues.”
The answer will shock you:
47% McCain
22% Romney
10% Huckabee
5% Paul
This political illiteracy among Republican voters threatens disastrous consequences. Please share this information wide ly.
Some open-borders apologists, such as syndicated columnist Ruben Navarrette, say 47% of Republicans like McCain on immigration because they support McCain’s idea that the best way to solve illegal immigration is to make nearly all the illegal aliens into legal residents and U.S. citizens.
That is pure wishful thinking on the part of open-borders advocates. Reputable polls for two years have shown that an overhwelming majority of Republicans (and a majority of Independents and Democrats) has opposed every one of McCain’s attempts to legalize illegal aliens with an amnesty.
I believe that at least half of those 47% Republicans who express confidence in McCain’s immigration plans simply don’t know the truth.
And the truth is exceptionally easy to find out.
For two months, McCain answers every immigration question by saying he will “secure the border” and that “I know how to do it.”
But records of his past actions show that he has repeatedly voted against funding the border fence, against funding more Border Patrol, against expanding interior immigration agents. About the only time McCain has backed more security on the border is when it is tied to giving an amnesty.
McCain has held border security hostage for years. He has been willing to work for border security only if Americans pay the “ransom” of giving him an amnesty.
But I am willing to accept that McCain is finally serious about securing the border, except that he really hasn’t provided a serious, detailed plan for how he will do it.
Read McCain’s statements in recent interviews to see how terribly the “straight-talker” zig zags to confuse voters about his ultimate plan to grant a gigantic amnesty.
McCain laid out his Immigr ation Plan in radio ads in South Carolina:
1. “Secure the borders.”
2. Deport around 2 million illegal aliens who have committed felonies.
3. Treat the other 10-18 million illegal aliens with “compassion” by letting them keep their U.S. residency and their American jobs and eventually become citizens.
McCain never expresses compassion for the 23 million working-age Americans without any college who do not currently have a job — or the millions more Americans whose real wages have stagnated or declined in recent years because their occupations were flooded by foreign labor.
Although the nation already has nearly 40 million foreign workers and dependents, McCain has repeatedly said that we need to import even more. During the last two years, he has pushed various bills that would double and triple immigration.
Every Republican you know needs to get a copy of this email (and the one I sent Saturday night).
The 500,000 of you — even if every one of you votes (and surely you will if your state is holding a primary) — are not enough to shift the results of Tuesday’s elections unless you multiply your influence by educating at least 10 other voters. And ask each of them to educate at least 5 more.
Matt Says:
5 February 2008 at 10:28 am.
I think I’m starting to have a hard time keeping my cool. McCain is so out of control. I’ve heard about the push-polling and so much more. He is SO ARROGANT! This next paragraph is from an article that shows that. He says it is no way to end a campaign which means he is saying today is the end for Romney. Ugh!
“The two then clashed from afar over a letter that Bob Dole — the former senator and World War II veteran — wrote in support of McCain. “Well, it’s probably the last person I would have wanted to have write a letter for me,” Romney said, likening McCain’s candidacy to Dole’s losing 1996 presidential bid. McCain called on his rival to apologize. “This is no way to end up this campaign,” McCain said, “by attacking a genuine American war hero.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_rdp
The Realist Says:
5 February 2008 at 11:00 am.
Here is a part of an article from the Washington Post. I’m glad it talks about McCains flip-flops but it is wrong in talking about Romney flipping on immigration. I can’t deny there has been a lot of shoddy journalism lately.
“Political analysts say that Romney and McCain are vulnerable to the flip-flop charge for different reasons. The label has become part of Romney’s political identity, with him changing positions on such core issues as abortion, gun control and immigration. The senator from Arizona, meanwhile, has presented himself as a “straight talker,” so the perception that he is in the same league as Romney when it comes to flip-flopping could be highly damaging.
Choosing a winner in the flip-flop wars is not easy. The record shows that Romney and McCain have both changed their positions on taxes, immigration and other issues that are important to GOP voters. Romney’s changes have garnered more attention, raising questions about his core convictions, but McCain has changed his stances more often than he is usually prepared to admit.
“You have to distinguish between the quantity and the quality of the flip-flops,” said Jennifer Duffy, a longtime analyst for the Cook Political Report. She said that Romney’s flip-flops have been on “big issues for Republican voters,” such as abortion. She said that McCain was trying to “reach out to establishment Republicans” by stressing topics such as border security but had not “fundamentally changed his views” on immigration and other matters.
Nachama Soloveichik, communications director for the Club for Growth, a free-market think tank and lobby group, said Romney comes across as “more sincere” than McCain when it comes to maintaining President Bush’s tax cuts. She said the senator had sounded “like Ted Kennedy” in 2001, when he opposed the tax cuts because they helped the wealthy at the expense of the middle class.
“He is trying to have it both ways,” Soloveichik said. “It’s hard to take him seriously when he says he is going to fight to make the Bush cuts permanent. He was front and center opposing them.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/02/04/ST2008020403086.html?sid=ST2008020403086
Cameron Says:
5 February 2008 at 11:35 am.
This is from the National Review
With a Little More Straight Talk, There May Be a Little Bit More Understanding
Completely unsolicited advice for John McCain from a Tuesday Romney voter.
By Kathryn Jean Lopez
‘I urge my friends who complain about the influence of the religious Right, get out there and get busy. That’s what they do!”
That, of course, is a quote from one John McCain. I recycle it because primary season is not over yet, and the “religious Right” in 24 states has a voice Tuesday — feel free to get busy. But I also recycle it now by way of a caution to the McCain campaign.
Last week on Bill Bennett’s radio program, right after he won the Florida primary, John McCain said that it was “foolishness” to question an answer he gave Tim Russert on immigration on Meet the Press earlier that week. The senator had said he’d sign the McCain-Kennedy amnesty plan of last year if it wound up on his Oval Office desk. That was not a great start toward mending fences.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDMxYmNkMTk1Y2Y0NGNmNGQxZDk0MGQwZjQxYWJjNjA=
T. Fan Says:
5 February 2008 at 1:40 pm.
The press understands what adverbs and adjectives do to impressionable Americans. The word “exploit” makes Romney sound terrible. They really are making a big push aren’t they?
“Romney sought until the end to exploit the right’s mistrust of McCain, who opposed President Bush’s tax cuts when they were introduced, departed from orthodoxy on immigration, favors mandates to slow global warming and led campaign finance reforms that activists say trampled on their speech rights.”
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UKAH4G0&show_article=1
E.E. Says:
5 February 2008 at 2:30 pm.
Mitt is still holding his lead in California even though the press has been saying all day that McCain is ahead there in the polls. Unless there is voter fraud, Mitt will win CA.
Obama, Romney Lead in California on Super Tuesday
“In the Republican race, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney held a 7-point advantage on Arizona Sen. John McCain in California, while McCain added to commanding double-digit leads in New York and New Jersey.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080205/pl_nm/usa_politics_poll_dc_2;_ylt=AvzwL1wNWtagf4PpYMabGDYE1vAI
CindyL. Says:
5 February 2008 at 3:29 pm.
Anyone think we need Mitt?
NEW YORK – Stocks slumped for a second straight session Tuesday after Wall Street saw an unexpected contraction in the service sector as evidence that the economy is sinking into recession. The Dow Jones industrial average fell more than 350 points, while bond prices rose.
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The Institute for Supply Management said its January index of the service sector, which accounts for about two-thirds of the economy, dropped below 50, indicating contraction. Economists had been expecting another month of growth; the last time the service sector contracted was in March 2003.
Matt Says:
5 February 2008 at 4:23 pm.
I took some paragraphs out of the middle of the following article.
Oprah Fixes Voting Glitch; Scattered Problems with Machines
…And in John McCain’s home state of Arizona, there were scattered reports of irregularities that included registered voters’ names missing from registration lists, identification problems and changes in polling locations that confused voters who were not provided an opportunity to vote by provisional ballot.
There were problems with voting machines including temporary glitches in St. Louis, Chicago, Georgia and elsewhere. In Los Angeles, voting machines weren’t delivered to several polling locations.
Even in Beverly Hills, there were glitches and a shortage of poll workers forced some voters to cast provisional ballots. “There’s so much frustration in this country, so to feel like I’m a disenfranchised voter in Beverly Hills is ridiculous,” Kristen Bell, an Obama supporter, told the Los Angeles Times.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4240895&page=1
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