Comments on: Cow Mentality http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/ Unifying America for Freedom's Cause Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:37:45 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Pickles http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-1684 Pickles Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:31:50 +0000 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/2008/02/19/cow-mentality/#comment-1684 If I didn't believe there were any absolutes, I wouldn't try and save the constitution. I would agree with my teachers who tell us it was only meant to govern in the 18th century and doesn't apply to us. That is the whole reason for this blog right? Identity the principles that all conservatives should recognize are true so we can work together to save them. The things that are just relative we can agree to just kind of not fight about so we can get the most important thing done. In my church I learned in primary that the constitution was inspired so when my teachers and textbooks try to brainwash me they can't do it. I know there are absolutes. If I didn’t believe there were any absolutes, I wouldn’t try and save the constitution. I would agree with my teachers who tell us it was only meant to govern in the 18th century and doesn’t apply to us. That is the whole reason for this blog right? Identity the principles that all conservatives should recognize are true so we can work together to save them. The things that are just relative we can agree to just kind of not fight about so we can get the most important thing done. In my church I learned in primary that the constitution was inspired so when my teachers and textbooks try to brainwash me they can’t do it. I know there are absolutes.

]]> By: Cameron http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-1682 Cameron Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:14:29 +0000 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/2008/02/19/cow-mentality/#comment-1682 Right! And it was the exact laws that Chuck puts down that the founding fathers said they used as the basis of the principles behind the Constitution. That is why we work so hard to preserve it and believe it is inspired of God. Right! And it was the exact laws that Chuck puts down that the founding fathers said they used as the basis of the principles behind the Constitution. That is why we work so hard to preserve it and believe it is inspired of God.

]]> By: Chuck C http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-1679 Chuck C Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:55:00 +0000 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/2008/02/19/cow-mentality/#comment-1679 Jan W., I have not read on this site where any participant was called evil. I think that liberals think we are saying that. Thank you for having faith in others. Sorry if I did not state things very well. Peter, There is a set of rules I believe in. They are summarized in Matthew 22: 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Some other rules are (there are 10 of them): ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.' TWO: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.' THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.' FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.' FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.' SIX: 'You shall not murder.' SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery.' EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.' NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.' TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.' Jan W.,

I have not read on this site where any participant was called evil. I think that liberals think we are saying that. Thank you for having faith in others. Sorry if I did not state things very well.

Peter,

There is a set of rules I believe in. They are summarized in Matthew 22:
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Some other rules are (there are 10 of them):
ONE: ‘You shall have no other gods before Me.’

TWO: ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image–any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.’

THREE: ‘You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.’

FOUR: ‘Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.’

FIVE: ‘Honor your father and your mother.’

SIX: ‘You shall not murder.’

SEVEN: ‘You shall not commit adultery.’

EIGHT: ‘You shall not steal.’

NINE: ‘You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.’

TEN: ‘You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.’

]]> By: E.E. http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-1678 E.E. Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:40:26 +0000 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/2008/02/19/cow-mentality/#comment-1678 I thought so. Nice testimony, Chuck. I liked your summation line. I thought so. Nice testimony, Chuck. I liked your summation line.

]]> By: Chuck C http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-1677 Chuck C Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:22:17 +0000 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/2008/02/19/cow-mentality/#comment-1677 These discussions have been interesting, and yes, they do come down to semantics in many ways. First, I do not believe there is a God. I KNOW there is a God, and it has been proven to me by the power of the Holy Ghost. He is the Father of my spirit. His Son Jesus Christ is my Savior and Redeemer. These things I know. And, no Resident Liberal, I don't believe these things, I know them to be true, just as much as anything I have ever experienced. I won't go into them here. They are too personal. But suffice it to say, I know that God does live. Other things I know are subservient to those stated above. We are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights. I know that I will one day be judged by Jesus Christ. He is not only my Judge, He is my Advocate to the Father. I will be accountable for what I did with the Talents He gave to me. I will be judged for how I treated my neighbors. I will be judged regarding my honesty, charity, and morality. Many things I do not know for certain, but the happiness and peace that comes from these things I DO know has provided a foundation for raising a family, without which I would be lost. Some truths are absolute. Application of others is open to debate. But I will not ridicule you if you do not know for yourself that these things are true. These discussions have been interesting, and yes, they do come down to semantics in many ways.

First, I do not believe there is a God. I KNOW there is a God, and it has been proven to me by the power of the Holy Ghost. He is the Father of my spirit. His Son Jesus Christ is my Savior and Redeemer. These things I know. And, no Resident Liberal, I don’t believe these things, I know them to be true, just as much as anything I have ever experienced. I won’t go into them here. They are too personal. But suffice it to say, I know that God does live.

Other things I know are subservient to those stated above. We are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights. I know that I will one day be judged by Jesus Christ. He is not only my Judge, He is my Advocate to the Father. I will be accountable for what I did with the Talents He gave to me. I will be judged for how I treated my neighbors. I will be judged regarding my honesty, charity, and morality.

Many things I do not know for certain, but the happiness and peace that comes from these things I DO know has provided a foundation for raising a family, without which I would be lost.

Some truths are absolute. Application of others is open to debate. But I will not ridicule you if you do not know for yourself that these things are true.

]]> By: Cavetrollhead http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-1676 Cavetrollhead Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:05:44 +0000 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/2008/02/19/cow-mentality/#comment-1676 I love this blog. What a great discussion. As ardently as I think I disagree with Peter and Resident Liberal, they have added so much to the discussion. Can you see how their opposition refines the rest of our arguments- in concept as well as in articulation? I love this blog. What a great discussion. As ardently as I think I disagree with Peter and Resident Liberal, they have added so much to the discussion. Can you see how their opposition refines the rest of our arguments- in concept as well as in articulation?

]]> By: Joy Bischoff http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-1673 Joy Bischoff Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:48:19 +0000 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/2008/02/19/cow-mentality/#comment-1673 I have to jump in here. I happen to know that Chuck believes firmly and immovably in God. I think more than anything else, he is trying to stimulate thought and discussion here. At least he is getting a lot of response. I have to jump in here. I happen to know that Chuck believes firmly and immovably in God. I think more than anything else, he is trying to stimulate thought and discussion here. At least he is getting a lot of response.

]]> By: Anon88 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-1672 Anon88 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:45:46 +0000 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/2008/02/19/cow-mentality/#comment-1672 There is a constant raging debate about absolutism and relativism in academia. I hate to say it but relativism is winning hands down. That is because we are being shamed to the point of not wanting to claim that there are even a handful of stable truths on which to found a government. Beginning with FDR, many federal judges no longer felt the need to base their decisions on the Constitution. Moral relativism was blossoming and each liberal judge claimed that personal judgment based on his own wisdom superseded the Constitution. The poison of this kind of arrogance has poured into every area of life until now even conservatives are afraid of being called close minded when they hold to principles. There is a constant raging debate about absolutism and relativism in academia. I hate to say it but relativism is winning hands down. That is because we are being shamed to the point of not wanting to claim that there are even a handful of stable truths on which to found a government.

Beginning with FDR, many federal judges no longer felt the need to base their decisions on the Constitution. Moral relativism was blossoming and each liberal judge claimed that personal judgment based on his own wisdom superseded the Constitution. The poison of this kind of arrogance has poured into every area of life until now even conservatives are afraid of being called close minded when they hold to principles.

]]> By: E.E. http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-1671 E.E. Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:39:28 +0000 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/2008/02/19/cow-mentality/#comment-1671 I think Chuck believes in God. I just think he didn't read the definitions I posted. I really think it comes down to semantics. I think Chuck believes in God. I just think he didn’t read the definitions I posted. I really think it comes down to semantics.

]]> By: Resident Liberal http://ingodwetrustblog.com/presidential-election-2008/cow-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-1670 Resident Liberal Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:34:11 +0000 http://ingodwetrustblog.com/2008/02/19/cow-mentality/#comment-1670 Just one problem with your thinking, Mac. No one here can know for sure if there is a god so the things this "maybe" god says can't be interpreted as absolute. I don't think there is a god but I can't be arrogant enough to say for sure there isn't. Chuck is honest enough not to say for sure that there is. Nothing is certain. Just one problem with your thinking, Mac. No one here can know for sure if there is a god so the things this “maybe” god says can’t be interpreted as absolute. I don’t think there is a god but I can’t be arrogant enough to say for sure there isn’t. Chuck is honest enough not to say for sure that there is. Nothing is certain.

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