13 February 2008
News and Comments – 02/13/08
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Cameron Says:
13 February 2008 at 9:23 am.
I read about yesterday’s results but had a hard time getting excited since I don’t have a dog in the hunt. I did think this part of an article was funny though. So weird how they accuse Huckabee of being stubborn by not getting out. I guess I missed the crowning ceremony.
McCain ‘Fired Up’ to Face Democrats
As the prohibitive leader in the race for Republican convention delegates, McCain is all but assured of the GOP nomination, even though former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee hasn’t made it easy with his stubborn insistence on remaining in the race.
Huckabee embarrassed McCain on Saturday by winning contests in Kansas and Louisiana and coming close enough in Washington state to challenge the results.
Even so, McCain was generous, praising Huckabee as a gifted communicator and advocate who is a credit to the Republican Party.
“He certainly keeps things interesting, a little too interesting at times tonight, I must confess,” McCain said. “But I have even more reason to appreciate just how formidable a campaigner he is.”
Matt Says:
13 February 2008 at 9:29 am.
I am feeling the same way this morning Cameron. Reading but not too interested. I was more interested in the following article. The part I copied came from the middle of the article. We need to start drilling and producing oil again. Tensions are increasing. We need our own oil and our own wheat etc.
Venezuela Halts Oil Sales to Exxon Mobil
Venezuela’s announcement came after Ramirez, the oil minister and PDVSA president, reiterated in a newspaper interview Tuesday that Venezuela is ready to cut off oil supplies to the United States if pressed into an “economic war.”
“If they want this conflict to escalate, it’s going to escalate. We have a way to make this conflict escalate,” Ramirez was quoted as saying.
The White House on Tuesday declined to comment on Venezuela’s threat. “When there’s a litigation that’s ongoing, different parties will say anything to try to win over on an argument,” said White House press secretary Dana Perino.
Meanwhile, Venezuelan state television has begun airing short anti-Exxon segments, with a message appearing on the screen in red text reading: “Exxon Mobil turns oil into blood.”
The U.S. remains the No. 1 buyer of Venezuelan oil, and Chavez relies largely on U.S. oil money to stimulate his economy and bankroll social programs that have traditionally boosted his popularity.
E.E. Says:
13 February 2008 at 9:37 am.
I liked what Joel Skousen had to say at World Briefs. It looks like people are separating into two camps. A guilt trip to get on board and a “I will never vote for John McCain”. I can’t imagine how this will all turn out. I wonder if the GOP bosses will get the message.
REBELLION BREWING IN DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN RANKS
The untold story emerging from the Super Tuesday primaries is not that McCain has the Republican nomination almost wrapped up, or that the Democrats are evenly split in their support for Obama and Clinton. The real story is that the manipulation of the election process has become so obvious to the thinking portion of each party that a latent rebellion is brewing. More and more people are cynical and angry over media bias, carefully timed big name endorsements that sway ignorant voters, and back room party deals (yet to come) that are specifically aimed at thwarting the ever-growing dissatisfaction of voters with the hollow promises of change. Those that spend a considerable amount of time pondering the issues and candidate positions (both real and feigned) are in the minority of each party. But, they are at least twice as active as passive and manipulated voters—and they don’t like what they see ahead. Is this growing rebellion enough to stop the establishment process of limiting our choice to Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum? Probably not, at least not yet, but dissatisfaction levels are growing so much that if the establishment forces John McCain and Hillary Clinton upon the nation, an independent challenge is probable.
Mac Says:
13 February 2008 at 9:46 am.
I have really felt the whole wind out of the sails thing and looks like some of you are feeling it too. We need a spark to get us motivated. Sean has the stop Hillary express. Maybe we need to be the stop John express. This isn’t hate speech or disrespectful or anything. “Identifying threats to the unity of the conservative base and helping people to resist the pressure to compromise values as an answer to political tensions.” This is a quote from number 2 of the three fold purpose of this blog. Tell me how this does not directly apply to McCain and the GOP leaders shoving him down our throat when we know good and well he will seriously damage our party?
Cameron Says:
13 February 2008 at 9:47 am.
Matt, I agree that oil is going to bring the world to a fever pitch. It is the new gold. It makes no sense for us not to be using our own oil.
CindyL. Says:
13 February 2008 at 10:51 am.
Mac, I have been thinking about what you said about the stop John express. I went back and read Roy’s article about the political spectrum. I wasn’t sure at first because we don’t want to be hateful and attack him. But after reading the article it seems so obvious that he is a plant. It isn’t hateful to see through the ploy to change and fracture our party. To vote for him would be like finding out that a communist sleeper agent was running for office. If we know he is a sleeper agent that has his own agenda and wants to destroy our system, how on earth could we vote for him? I’m not saying McCain is a communist but he is a sleeper agent for the establishment who wants to change conservatism. It’s insane to vote for him.
Cameron Says:
13 February 2008 at 11:45 am.
Going for the Gestapo to whip us in line. But I won’t go.
McCain rallies House GOP members
WASHINGTON – Republican nominee-in-waiting John McCain appealed to GOP House members for help rallying conservatives behind him, acknowledging the party must unite if it hopes to match the enthusiasm generated by Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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McCain met Wednesday with House Republicans in an effort to smooth over past conflicts and encourage critics to back his candidacy. McCain, all but assured the nomination, won Tuesday’s primaries in Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia.
“I’m very gratified by the very warm reception that I received from the Republican conference this morning — a spirited and a good discussion of some of the issues,” McCain told reporters afterward. “I’m very grateful for our pledge to work together.”
McCain spoke at a Capitol Hill news conference where he was flanked by the House GOP leadership. The Arizona senator is working hard to reassure critics who are suspicious of his more moderate positions on some issues and of his tendency to work with Democrats.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080213/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_6;_ylt=Ao.qMBZ1Dx45dUi.vvRS2FAE1vAI
Saddened Says:
13 February 2008 at 11:49 am.
I just heard this young guy on Rush saying he would vote for Obama because he likes the way he speaks. It is inspiring even though he admits he is a socialist. I read a blog here by a young man who will vote for him as a protest vote but he knows we have to watch him to keep him in line. People here have compared him to Hitler which I thought was a little harsh but now I see the point. To admit that you are taken in by a golden voice while admitting it has no substance and has a dangerous political leaning, it is just scary.
T. Fan Says:
13 February 2008 at 12:56 pm.
Saddened
Here is my take on this based on the information in The Secret of the Political Spectrum. If the Establishment is going to make sure that they get someone put in as president that they will be able to guide in their efforts to advance liberalism, it doesn’t matter all that much who it is. The three candidates who have the only shot at the presidency are all Establishment candidates. So with my vote I will make a statement to the GOP side of the Establishment. This message is the loudest voice I have to show my feelings about what they have done.
Joy Bischoff Says:
13 February 2008 at 1:23 pm.
Logic is shouting from the rooftops today. Great job folks.
Joy Bischoff Says:
13 February 2008 at 3:46 pm.
After thinking about this, I did want to say that the site should not become an official anti-McCain campaign. We want to stay more positive than that. Warning of the dangers that his positions pose is one thing, setting out to destroy the man himself is another. The story in my Dialogue of Freedom blog about the rattlesnake is an object lesson and not meant to call McCain a snake. He probably has no idea how badly his positions betray the Constitution. He probably sincerely believes in the things he wants to accomplish. I give him that and I do not hate the man.
Cameron Says:
13 February 2008 at 4:45 pm.
Delegates can support other candidates with Romney out
By Michael Johnson
Now that former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney has suspended his campaign for the presidency, whom will Wyoming Republican delegates support?
The answer is simpler than it sounds.
Romney, whom Wyoming supported during its Jan. 5 caucus, pulled out of the race Feb. 7.
Romney took eight of 12 delegates in Wyoming, including Park County’s support.
Another dozen delegates will be chosen at the state’s GOP convention May 31.
The county was among the first in the state to throw its support behind Romney when its GOP leaders selected Marilyn Taylor as their alternate delegate to attend the Republican National Convention on Sept. 1-4 in Minneapolis.
Terry Hinkle, vice-chairman of the county GOP, said Romney’s decision to pull out was “surprising,” but added that Taylor can support another candidate.
Taylor declined comment Thursday.
“Now that (Romney) has pulled out, it’s entirely up to Taylor to support whomever she wishes,” he said. “I assume that’s what will happen with the rest of the state’s delegates.”
Romney finished first in Massachusetts, Alaska, Minnesota, Colorado and Utah on Super Tuesday. In the early voting contests, he also won Nevada, Maine and Michigan.
Hinkle said many of Romney’s supporters could swing to Sen. John McCain, who had a 697-286 delegate lead over Romney for the GOP bid as of Feb. 5.
“It’s crystal clear that McCain has a lock on it,” Hinkle said. “You have to look at the numbers. I’m sure the race will be decided well before the convention. McCain will have it or be so close that it will be a slam dunk.”
Suspending a campaign has a different meaning depending on the party.
On the Republican side, decisions on how to allocate delegates are left to the state parties.
On the Democratic side, a candidate who “suspends” a candidacy is technically still in the race, so he or she keeps both district and statewide delegates won through primaries and caucuses.
National party rules say a candidate who “drops out” keeps district-level delegates he or she has won, but loses statewide delegates.
Hinkle said Romney still might be a player in the race.
“I’d like to see him be McCain’s vice president,” he said. “Pairing Romney, a conservative candidate, with a more moderate McCain would make an interesting ticket.”
http://www.codyenterprise.com/articles/2008/02/13/news/news4.txt
E.E. Says:
13 February 2008 at 4:49 pm.
Hannity just freaked out when a woman compared Obama to Hitler. That made me want to remind everyone here that when those named were linked here, it was made clear that no one was saying that Obama was being compared to Hitler. The point was made that we should not pick a candidate just because he is mesmerizing when he speaks. Hitler had this gift. We have to look past the charm and see if there is substance there.
Terrie Soberg Says:
13 February 2008 at 4:54 pm.
I am glad you emphacized that point, E.E. It is a very important distinction.
Cavetrollhead Says:
13 February 2008 at 4:56 pm.
OK,
I am an extremely slow reader – to the point of almost being disabled. So forgive me if this point has already been brought up.
This is my hypothesis for why Romney dropped out.
Think about this number (I heard Gingrich talking about this the other day)
As of this Tuesday, the democrats had turned out about 15 million voters. The Republicans had only turned out about 9 million (Gingrich got the numbers wrong I think. he said Rs turned out 8 million)
The point is that the democrats base is energized. The Rs aren’t energized. It looks impossible for the Rs to win the presidency. Therefore Romney has a better chance not to blow his opportunity this election cycle and fail. A failed nominee is seldom given the nod by his party again.
Chuck C Says:
13 February 2008 at 5:15 pm.
I just decided who I am going to vote for in November. It will be Romney. I will not be voting for someone I really don’t want. It will be for someone who will not win, but will make the statement I would like to be heard.
The Powers that Be need a talking to, and I can do that in the voting booth.
Joy Bischoff Says:
13 February 2008 at 7:42 pm.
CTH, very good point. I’m glad you pointed that out. After four years of a socialist leaning president we will all be working and waiting in the wings when America comes to her senses.
Chuck, it is a very personal decision. I am encouraging my four voting age children to study it out and make their own decision. One has decided differently than me and I’m so glad he thinks for himself and he knows I’m behind him all the way. That said, the more I study this out in my mind and write about it, the more I feel I must make a statement. So I am thrilled that someone as smart as you has come to the same conclusion.
Cavetrollhead Says:
13 February 2008 at 8:37 pm.
Chuck and Joy, I think also that if we write in Romney, it will send a message to the republicans who we want them to look for in 2012. It won’t mean as much in Utah as in other states.
jobob911 Says:
14 February 2008 at 3:49 pm.
That is a good point CTH.
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