20 April 2008

Weekend Chat - 04/20/08

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Cameron Says:

20 April 2008 at 8:49 am.

McCain overcomes rank-and-file concerns

David Paul Kuhn Sun Apr 20, 6:41 AM ET

Although John McCain’s candidacy is still viewed with suspicion by many conservative leaders, polling suggests he has overcome the concerns of rank-and-file conservatives: McCain isn’t viewed more unfavorably by conservative voters today than George W. Bush was at this point in the 2000 election cycle.

In the latest CBS News/New York Times poll, 18 percent of conservatives said they have an unfavorable view of McCain. The same percentage expressed an unfavorable view of Bush in CBS News polls conducted in March and April of 2000; higher percentages of conservatives held unfavorable views of Bob Dole and George H.W. Bush at similar points in 1996 and 1988, respectively.

Although some prominent conservatives continue to have deep reservations about McCain — a few still say they won’t vote for him in November — interviews with a dozen conservative leaders confirm that the Republican base is largely coming to terms with the party’s new standard-bearer.

“We’ve all had our differences with John McCain,” said Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.), who intends to endorse McCain prior to Indiana’s primary. “But Sen. McCain is reaching to the right, and the right is reaching back.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080420/pl_politico/9727;_ylt=Am8yW40khNlK3ZXMx0.NlUOyFz4D

M.G. Says:

20 April 2008 at 10:20 am.

The RNC knew we would get in line like good sheep. It was a matter of time just like we were talking about. I don’t think McCain has overcome fears because he has done little to reach out to us. A few promises that will probably not be followed through with. It’s more that people don’t want Hillary or Barack.

E.E. Says:

20 April 2008 at 2:59 pm.

This is a huge article about McCain’s temper with lots of quotes from lots of people he has offended, many of them Republicans. I left out the majority of the examples because they keep going and going. In one part someone says McCain hasn’t acted badly in the election but apparently he didn’t follow the way McCain treated Romney. I could never pull a lever for a man like this, not ever. He is sick.

McCain: A Question of Temperament

(By Scott Anderson — Associated Press)

Sunday, April 20, 2008; Page A01
That temper has followed him throughout his life, McCain acknowledges. He recalls in his writings how, as a toddler, he sometimes held his breath and fainted during moments of fury. As the son of a naval officer who was on his way to becoming a four-star admiral, McCain found himself frequently uprooted and enrolled in new schools, where, as an underappreciated outsider, he developed “a little bit of a chip on my shoulder,” as he recalled this month.

During a campaign stop at Episcopal High School in Alexandria, the most famous graduate of the Class of 1954 opened a window on what swirled inside him during his school years. “I was always the new kid and was accustomed to proving myself quickly at each new school as someone not to be challenged lightly,” he told students.

“As a young man, I would respond aggressively and sometimes irresponsibly to anyone who I perceived to have questioned my sense of honor and self-respect. Those responses often got me in a fair amount of trouble earlier in life.”

John McCain cupped a fist and began pumping it, up and down, along the side of his body. It was a gesture familiar to a participant in the closed-door meeting of the Senate committee who hoped that it merely signaled, as it sometimes had in the past, McCain’s mounting frustration with one of his colleagues.

But when McCain leaned toward Charles E. Grassley and slowly said, “My friend . . .” it seemed clear that ugliness was looming: While the plural “my friends” was usually a warm salutation from McCain, “my friend” was often a prelude to his most caustic attacks. Grassley, an Iowa Republican with a reputation as an unwavering legislator, calmly held his ground. McCain became angrier, his fist pumping even faster.

It was early 1992, and the occasion was an informal gathering of a select committee investigating lingering issues about Vietnam War prisoners and those missing in action, most notably whether any American servicemen were still being held by the Vietnamese. It is unclear precisely what issue set off McCain that day. But at some point, he mocked Grassley to his face and used a profanity to describe him. Grassley stood and, according to two participants at the meeting, told McCain, “I don’t have to take this. I think you should apologize.”

McCain refused and stood to face Grassley. “There was some shouting and shoving between them, but no punches,” recalls a spectator, who said that Nebraska Democrat Bob Kerrey helped break up the altercation.

Since the beginning of McCain’s public life, the many witnesses to his temper have had strikingly different reactions to it. Some depict McCain, now the presumptive Republican nominee for president, as an erratic hothead incapable of staying cool in the face of what he views as either disloyalty to him or irrational opposition to his ideas. Others praise a firebrand who is resolute against the forces of greed and gutlessness.

“Does he get angry? Yes,” said Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, a Connecticut independent who supports McCain’s presidential bid. “But it’s never been enough to blur his judgment. . . . If anything, his passion and occasional bursts of anger have made him more effective.”

Former senator Bob Smith, a New Hampshire Republican, expresses worries about McCain: “His temper would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind, it should disqualify him.”

A spokesman for McCain’s campaign said he would be unavailable for an interview on the subject of his temper. But over the years, no one has written more intimately about McCain’s outbursts than McCain himself. “My temper has often been both a matter of public speculation and personal concern,” he wrote in a 2002 memoir. “I have a temper, to state the obvious, which I have tried to control with varying degrees of success because it does not always serve my interest or the public’s.”

He defied authority, ridiculed other students, sometimes fought. The nicknames hung on him at Episcopal mocked his hair-trigger feistiness: “Punk” and “McNasty.” Hoping to emulate his father and grandfather, also an admiral, he went on to the Naval Academy, where his pattern of unruliness and defiance continued, landing him near the bottom of his class. “I acted like a jerk,” McCain wrote of the period before he righted himself to become a naval aviator, a Vietnam POW and eventually a career politician.

The trajectory of his temper, studied ever more intently as his White House ambitions took shape, includes incidents from his years in the House and in the Senate, leading up to the early days of his current presidential campaign. In 2007, during a heated closed-door discussion with Senate colleagues about the contentious immigration issue, he angrily shouted a profanity at a fellow Republican, John Cornyn of Texas, an incident that quickly found its way into headlines.

Reports recently surfaced of Rep. Rick Renzi, an Arizona Republican, taking offense when McCain called him “boy” once too often during a 2006 meeting, a story that McCain aides confirm while playing down its importance. “Renzi flared and he was prickly,” McCain strategist Mark Salter said. “But there were no punches thrown or anything.”

Salter, who has co-written five books with McCain that, among other things, explore the origins of his feistiness, said he thinks McCain’s temper first became an issue after an incident in 1989, during McCain’s first term in the Senate.

The nomination of a beleaguered John Tower to become defense secretary was already in trouble when Sen. Richard C. Shelby of Alabama, a conservative Democrat who later became a Republican, helped doom it by voting against Tower. A furious McCain, believing that Shelby had reneged on a commitment of support, accosted him, got within an inch of his nose and screamed at him. News of the incident swiftly spread around the Capitol.

Indeed, aside from a single testy exchange in March with New York Times reporter Elisabeth Bumiller over whether he had had a conversation in 2004 with Democratic Sen. John F. Kerry about being his running mate — a tape of which appeared immediately on YouTube — McCain has been noticeably unflappable throughout the primaries. Advisers posit that his temperament ought to be a dead issue.

Smith admits to not liking McCain, a point he has often made over the years to reporters. “I’ve witnessed a lot of his temper and outbursts,” Smith said. “For me, some of this stuff is relevant. It raises questions about stability. . . . It’s more than just temper. It’s this need of his to show you that he’s above you — a sneering, condescending attitude. It’s hurt his relationships in Congress. . . . I’ve seen it up-close.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/19/AR2008041902224_4.html?wpisrc=newsletter

T. Fan Says:

20 April 2008 at 4:04 pm.

E.E., your article is very damning for McCain. It makes me think we are weak if we knuckle under and support and crazy man like this.

Benjamin Says:

20 April 2008 at 9:55 pm.

This is a scary man. He had a chip on his shoulder as a kid and he still has it. The way he treated Mitt was so condescending. He disgusted me.

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