13 March 2008
It May Happen…
Posted by Joy Bischoff under: Presidential Election 2008 .
March 12, 2008
McCain: Romney seems interested in V.P spot
Posted: 09:15 PM ET
Romney made clear Tuesday night he’s interested in being McCain’s running mate. (Getty Images)
(CNN) — Mitt Romney’s message came through loud and clear to John McCain.
The Arizona senator joked Wednesday he got the impression Romney is interested in the No. 2 spot on the Republican presidential ticket after watching a recent interview with the former Massachusetts governor.
“I got that impression from him watching his interview last night, I got that impression,” McCain said laughing on his campaign plane in New Hampshire. (Watch McCain’s comments on Romney)
The comments follow Romney’s interview with Fox News Tuesday night, during which the former presidential candidate said he’d be honored to serve alongside McCain.
“I think any Republican leader in this country would be honored to be asked to serve as the vice presidential nominee, myself included,” Romney said. “Of course this is a nation which needs strong leadership. And if the nominee of our party asked you to serve with him, anybody would be honored to receive that call … and to accept it, of course.”
McCain refused to hint at just how seriously his campaign is considering Romney for the ticket, though reports earlier this week said some aides to President Bush are pushing the idea of a McCain-Romney ticket, given the Massachusetts Republican’s credentials with respect to economic issues.
But McCain and Romney were bitter opponents earlier this year in the Republican presidential race, and the two men have butted heads for several years. Romney also categorically ruled out being McCain’s running mate in January, saying “I’m not going to be any vice president to John McCain either, that’s not going to happen.”
McCain acknowledged he and Romney were in a tough fight for the party’s nomination, but suggested the two have put their differences behind them.
“The lesson in politics is that you go forward, not back and so I defend the fact that it was a spirited and tough campaign but the fact is that once it’s over, we share…the same principles and values of conservative Republicans,” he said on his campaign bus later Wednesday.
McCain also said it’s not necessary for a presidential candidate to be personally close to his or her running mate.
“I don’t think you have a personal relationship, but you have to have a comfortable, professional relationship.”
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34 Comments so far...
Mac Says:
13 March 2008 at 9:10 am.
I think its kind of creepy how McCain was giggling about this. It makes me think maybe he will pick Mitt and then really enjoy having him under his thumb. I think he would try and make Mitt as ineffective as he could. He’ll resent the pressure of being pushed into picking him and take it out on Mitt. His body language then they were standing together was over the top. He looked like he was being polluted just standing next to Mitt. He was actually cringing. This whole thing seems weird.
Cameron Says:
13 March 2008 at 9:23 am.
The nice things I heard him say about Mitt on the news sounded like he was being pushed hard on this. He might be forced to do it.
SGS Says:
13 March 2008 at 9:28 am.
Mac, Mitt being under thumb? Mitt? Are we talking about the same Mitt? 
He’s way smarter than McCain, and he will figure out something that he can do to make this country better, regardless of what McCain try to spit on him.
Mac Says:
13 March 2008 at 9:56 am.
SGS, you’re right. I think McCain is so freaking arrogant that he believes he will have Mitt under his thumb. IDK, maybe in some ways he’ll be able to do it but I think you are right in that Mitt will find a way around it cause he is way smarter and better than McCain, son of Cain.
Chuck C Says:
13 March 2008 at 10:11 am.
More traction for the Dems.
The New York Times
Unions Unveil McCain Attack
By MICHAEL LUO
Published: March 13, 2008
… On Tuesday, the A.F.L.-C.I.O. announced the start of a campaign attacking Senator McCain on economic issues, part of a $53.4 million grass-roots mobilization effort.
The anti-McCain effort will include leafleting at workplaces, knocking on doors, direct mail, phone banking and a Web site, mccainrevealed.org. Union activists also plan to confront Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, at his appearances in the coming months…
Matt Says:
13 March 2008 at 11:45 am.
Chuck, so this may seem to explain maybe why McCain seems to be under a lot of pressure to add Mitt to the ticket. Everything I read lately really does seem to suggest that McCain is clueless on economics. I think without Romney he would be such a disaster as president with a country in an economic downturn.
E.E. Says:
13 March 2008 at 12:02 pm.
I was wondering if evangelicals would be a little more comfortable with the thought of Mitt as VP rather than president. Maybe that would be the best way for them to find out he wouldn’t do anything offensive. Could be a good way to prepare for president. Personally, I can’t see McCain running for a second term but maybe that is just wishful thinking. And as a last thought, I am still not sure republicans can win this time around. Without Romney, McCain really doesn’t stand a chance.
Cameron Says:
13 March 2008 at 12:39 pm.
Definite traction for the dems all right. They are going to blame everything that has gone wrong in the last eight years on McCain. Forget the fact that the economy was sliding when Bush took office, forget 9/11. Forget that his tax cuts brought things back but that lending institutions created this housing bubble that is blowing everything else up with it. I agree with E.E. and Matt. McCain doesn’t stand a chance without Mitt.
Jan W. Says:
13 March 2008 at 3:09 pm.
McCain just has to get someone as VP who makes up for his weaknesses and he has so many. I can’t think of anyone but Mitt, can any of you?
Chuck C Says:
13 March 2008 at 3:17 pm.
Trouble is, no good conservative can vote for McCain, so it doesn’t matter who his running mate is.
E.E. Says:
13 March 2008 at 4:01 pm.
Chuck, some people here have shown that kind of attitude but most of us haven’t. Joy has repeatedly written about how important it is that we don’t judge other’s decisions on that issue because it is far more important that we all work together for conservatism. And that if we split along those lines then conservatism doesn’t stand a chance. I bet there aren’t more than a couple of people around here that would say that no good conservative could vote for McCain. I’m not sure what I will do but I am hoping that if he picks Mitt, then with Mitt’s strong intellect, he can help influence McCain and temper his radical attitude. At least he would help with the economy. I’m still not positive how I would vote. I would have to listen and see if I thought McCain was softening a little toward Mitt.
Cameron Says:
13 March 2008 at 4:05 pm.
E.E. I’m glad you addressed that because I wasn’t sure what to say and still not quite sure where Chuck is coming from. He seems like a great guy but just confused or maybe it is just me that’s confused. I think I’ve said that before.
Pickles Says:
13 March 2008 at 4:16 pm.
I think people here are really great. Most comment threads out there are filled with real jerks. You guys are awesome.
I don’t know what I would do either if Mitt was the running mate but like you said, there is lots of time still.
Jeezer Says:
13 March 2008 at 4:24 pm.
I will be writing in Ron Paul’s name. I don’t care if Romney is VP or not. He seems like a very nice man but I have different positions about too many things.
Stumpy Says:
13 March 2008 at 4:30 pm.
Jeezer - its the rule that y’all gotta support Paul. Everybody who has got a j and at least 2 ees in there name have to do that or they get in big trouble. Right Jesse?
Jeezer Says:
13 March 2008 at 4:46 pm.
Jeez Stumpy, you’re nuts.
T. Fan Says:
13 March 2008 at 4:51 pm.
I don’t think I could bring myself to vote for McCain. Nothing really would change for me because the man is too bull headed to let Mitt influence him. He has his handlers that guide him. He isn’t the maverick he pretends to be, he is just a liberal who will help bring about the North American Union. He believe he is truly a bad person and I can’t vote for a bad person.
T. Fan Says:
13 March 2008 at 4:52 pm.
Joy, what about you?
Joy Bischoff Says:
13 March 2008 at 5:27 pm.
T. Fan,
I have two thoughts right now that I will share after spending a couple of days thinking about this. The first is that I have discussed that the hub of the wheel for me is a set of principles and it is not a man. As much as I respect Mitt Romney, I will have to wait and see what he has to say before I make any decision. He would need to hold firmly to certain issues like the illegal alien problem. Compromises are reasonable but there is a limit to compromise on a few issues for me personally and there are a couple of no-compromise principles that I have. So I won’t blindly follow even Mitt Romney.
The second thought is this. If I see a situation like King Nebakanezer counseling with Daniel, then I could support Nebakanezer. If I saw that the king was not listening to Daniel, then I would not personally support that king. It will take time for me to watch and see if that seemed to be possible. In case it isn’t clear, I am equating the king with McCain, and Daniell with Romney, just roughly guys, I’m not calling Romney a prophet or anything. Of course it may all be academic since Mitt may not be VP choice.
Matt Says:
13 March 2008 at 5:52 pm.
Mitt Romney To Be John McCain’s Vice President?
BOSTON (WBZ) ? At a fundraiser Wednesday night in Boston for Republican presidential hopeful John McCain there was one topic that was on everyone’s minds: who would be his running mate.
On Tuesday, former Massachusetts Governor and one time Republican presidential hopeful, Mitt Romney said he’d be willing to be considered to be McCain’s running mate.
Before his Boston fundraiser, McCain visited New Hampshire, where he thanked supporters for resurrecting his campaign and he promised to keep the town hall meetings that are a hallmark of the state.
There the Arizona Senator was asked about the possibility of Romney as his running mate.
“I believe that Governor Romney fought a very tough, fine campaign, and he has earned himself a place in the future of the Republican Party,” said McCain.
He added that he’s spoken to his former rival several times since Romney dropped out of the White House race, but not about the vice presidency.
Some of those attending Wednesday’s fundraiser in Boston loved the idea.
T. Fan Says:
13 March 2008 at 6:18 pm.
Joy, I’m glad you aren’t just going to blindly follow Romney. Who knows, maybe a miracle will happen and McCain will wise up but I know that the elite have an agenda and he is part of it.
Chuck C Says:
13 March 2008 at 6:20 pm.
You guys are all awesome. I’ll stop pulling all of your legs now. When I post things about McCain, it is mostly to get people thinking and talking. I’m kind of bad that way, but I believe it helps to solidify your position if you have a jerk egging you on. Mys sister-in-law used to hate it when we would have discussions about something she believed passionately and I would take the other side, then switch it so she was arguing against herself, then she would finally realize it and we’d move on.
To tell you the truth, my feelings about McCain are parallel with most of yours. Kind of fun though, don’t you think? Can Romney fix McCain? I don’t know.
Joy Bischoff Says:
13 March 2008 at 6:43 pm.
Well you got a good discussion started. Interesting about switching positions, my dad does that all the time to me 
Ghost Says:
13 March 2008 at 6:52 pm.
I am definitely not going to be rushed into anything here. Thank goodness we have months. I would want to really see if McCain changes toward Mitt because right now he still acts like Mitt is poisonous. I like the Daniel analogy. It makes a lot of sense to me, not that I always have to agree with Joy but it is logical.
Cavetrollhead Says:
13 March 2008 at 10:24 pm.
I think it is important to analyze what having Mitt Romney as the running mate would mean as far as getting our votes now. It will be quite easy to justify supporting the ticket when Romney is in the VP slot. But if we individually take a position on the hypothetical now, it might be a more honest one when the time comes. I can see many pluses and negatives, but I will try to take a position before it actually happens so it won’t be an emotional decision.
I want to say something about Ron Paul. I have said it before. I just can’t support a man who would pull out of Iraq unmitigatedly. If it was a mistake to start the war, that is irrelevant. It is like deciding to replace your roof and then when the roof is off a terrible storm hits. The time to decide weather to change the roof is past. The time is at hand to FINISH the job weather tearing off the roof was right or not. You can acknowledge that it was a mistake, but that doesn’t fix the problem.
If we pull out now, the vacuum of power will be terrific. We as a country are responsible for what happens there. We can’t abdicate responsibility because it was a mistake to start the war. That would truly be an evil act. IF you think we have too much blood on our hands now, just wait until we pull out without providing for the security of the people there, from the situation that we created! Just because we won’t have perpetrated the inevitable slaughter first hand, doesn’t mean we will be guiltless. Pulling out prematurely for our own “national interests” would make us guilty of a kind of passive genocide. I would NEVER support Ron Paul for that reason. I think such a pullout would be unconscionable. I don’t understand how Paul could support that.
Another point that I haven’t brought up is that Reverting to the Gold backed currency system just makes no sense to me at all. I don’t feel so passionately about it, but I feel quite confident that it is not a critical issue. Since the creation of the Fed, our country has prospered like no other on earth. We led the way with the Fed and thereby became the first to implement it’s strategy. That led to History’s most powerful economy. The Fed isn’t perfect but it works, and probably put the US on top of the world by virtue of its establishment. Again I might be wrong but I can hardly see why this is the most among the important issues of our time. And I believe that I am in good company most economists take my side of that position.
Finally, abolish the IRS? OK that is sounds good. But in less than a few months? By what magic?
I realize he is a great and kind man, but I think he is out of his depth. No offense intended to Ron Paul supporters.
If you can change my mind on these issues, please do.
Joy Bischoff Says:
13 March 2008 at 11:58 pm.
Cave, I agree with the Romney stuff. I am hoping to be able to figure out what I want to do for sure at least by September. This is, if Mitt is VP. If not then I definitely write in Romney.
I really like a lot of things about Ron Paul but I am hoping we can come up with a better exit strategy for Iraq. Right now we are not doing enough to make their government step up and this could go on endlessly. I would rather pull out right now than stay for 100 years. Hopefully there is a compromise. I truly think Mitt could have figured one out. He is a bulldog with problems. Okay that sounds funny. He isn’t a bulldog with problems…haha, he is a bulldog at solving problems. He’s a bigger dog than McCain but he didn’t have the press and the establishment behind him.
I don’t think we can realistically abolish the IRS. It just wouldn’t work in this modern world darn it.
Now where I do disagree is on the Fed. I have studied the history of the Fed. They are a private organization, not a part of the government at all. The Founding Fathers strongly urged us to never get into that situation. Washington and Jefferson felt especially strong about it but the fledgling country fell into it. Andrew Jackson fought them tooth and nail and finally got rid of them. The text books of the nineteenth century for school children warned of the evils of the Fed and fully explained why it was so dangerous to put that kind of power in the hands of bankers. Congress had power to print money and when given away, the power brokers are the ones who control the money.
Wall Street tried to bring back the Fed right after the turn of the twentieth century. They failed because the people were educated on the problem. A few years later they tricked the people into voting it in. They had a planning meeting on an Island off the Carolinas and decided to act as if they had changed certain aspects that would make it desirable and then told Wall Street to act alarmed as if they did not want this to pass. The people became confused, and thought if Wall Street didn’t like this, then they should go ahead and vote for it.
Upon the establishment of the Federal Reserve in 1913, they began flooding the country with money. This created inflation and an economic boom such as the one we have recently had. When they saw the bubble was going to pop, insiders were told to pull their money. Then the Fed purposely drastically reduced the amount of money they were printing. The supply dried up and the market crashed because they didn’t have the liquidity to pay their bills. The 200 billion just promised our markets will be printed out of thin air and will greatly add to the devaluation of the dollar.
When the Fed printed so few dollars, banks failed, people lost jobs and the Federal Reserve become the proud owners of huge tracts of land from farms that defaulted. Ever since they have used their power to create whatever economic situation they want in order to bring about socialism which is their end goal. They have created tremendous inflation that will continue until the dollar fails. Greenspan told the Middle East to dump their dollars. I have seen photos of the Amero which are being printed in Colorado. Vicente Fox told Larry King about the plans for the Amero on his program. The way to bring about the North American Union is to do the very thing that brought Europe into one entity…a single currency.
This isn’t just my wild opinion, there is such overwhelming evidence for all this and if one studies, they can learn all about it. I have been studying this for twenty years.
Joy Bischoff Says:
13 March 2008 at 11:59 pm.
Cave, go back and watch that 22 minute video on The History of Political Correctness and you will see a little of what I wrote about. There are lots of great books on the subject if you are interested.
Cavetrollhead Says:
14 March 2008 at 12:15 am.
I am sorry Joy but I can’t agree on all points you have brought up. I can certainly agree with some theory but not as applies to today’s Fed. But I am digressing from topic. Maybe we should dedicate blog to the subject, or debate this by email.
I will try to get to the video soon.
Joy Bischoff Says:
14 March 2008 at 12:28 am.
The first half of what I wrote is history with lots of solid scholarly facts behind it that anyone can check. The later part about what they have been doing since the depression is certainly debatable and I don’t expect anyone to take my word on it. That would be awfully arrogant of me. That’s a good idea about email though so we keep to topic.
Hank Says:
14 March 2008 at 12:32 am.
Before the Federal Reserve Act was signed by Wilson in 1913, the bankers got together in the infamous Jekyll Island meeting. This was what you were talking about where they organized the plan to fool the country into voting in the Fed. Here were some of the men at that meeting.
Senator Nelson Aldrich & Frank Vanderlip (representing the Rockefellers), future Senator Abraham Andrew, Henry Davison (representing JP Morgan), Charles Norton, (President of the First National Bank of New York), Benjamin Strong (JP Morgan), and Paul Warburg (representing the Rothschilds) were at this secret meeting.
Hank Says:
14 March 2008 at 12:35 am.
Here is something else by one of the men that was there. I’ve looked into this kind of thing a lot. Joy you are right that there is a large amount of evidence on this.
Later, however, these thieves felt free to acknowledge how they were the creators of the fraudulent Federal Reserve. On February 9, 1935, this Frank Vanderlip quote appeared in the Saturday Evening Post:
“I do not feel it is any exaggeration to speak of our secret expedition to Jekyll Island as the occasion of the actual conception of what eventually became the Federal Reserve System. We were told to leave our last names behind us. We were told further that we should avoid dining together on the night of our departure.
“We were instructed to come one at a time and as unobtrusively as possible to the railroad terminal on the New Jersey littoral of the Hudson where Senator Aldrich’s private car would be in readiness attached to the rear-end of a train to the south. Once aboard the private car we began to observe the taboo that had been fixed on last names. We addressed one another as Ben, Paul, Nelson and Abe. Davison and I adopted even deeper disguises abandoning our first names.
“On the theory that we were always right, he became Wilbur and I became Orville after those two aviation pioneers the Wright brothers. The servants and train crew may have known the identities of one or two of us, but they did not know all and it was the names of all printed together that would’ve made our mysterious journey significant in Washington, in Wall Street, even in London. Discovery we knew simply must not happen.”
Ghost Says:
14 March 2008 at 12:47 am.
I didn’t know a whole lot about the fed so I was interested to read this. I googled the subject and there is a ton of stuff on it. The good news is that a lot of it does seem very well documented, it’s just history. I skimmed a lot of different hits and will read more later but one of the many paragraphs that caught my attention was this one about a man named House who was the man who pulled the strings for the bankers in the White House:
Colonel Edward Mandell House* was referred to by Rabbi Stephen Wise in his autobiography, Challenging Years as “the unofficial Secretary of State”. House noted that he and Wilson knew that in passing the Federal Reserve Act, they had created an instrument more powerful than the Supreme Court. The Federal Reserve Board of Governors actually comprised a Supreme Court of Finance, and there was no appeal from any of their rulings.
Matt Says:
14 March 2008 at 1:34 pm.
You know I actually thought most people knew about the problems with the Fed. There really is lots of writings from the people involved in this that tells the whole story. They are proud of what they are doing and some of them are happy to brag about how they are bringing the world to socialism through economic means. They succeeded in Europe and we are getting close here.
Joy I don’t know why you said the second part of what you wrote was just a theory. From other things you’ve written I know you have studied this enough to know it is fact.
Joy Bischoff Says:
14 March 2008 at 2:13 pm.
Matt, we may have been wrong about how widespread this info is. The important thing as far as I’m concerned is that some people don’t agree and they have that right. Others just aren’t ready to hear something like this and the worst thing we can do is try and shove it down their throat. I hope I didn’t do that but I may have. Cave is a smart man and a great contributor here and I would never want to force anything on him. He sees a lot of the same problems I do and is very fierce in his love of country. I love him for his good heart. I am sure there are others out there who feel as he does and I want all of them to know that is find with me. I hesitated over whether or not I should address Cave’s comments about the Fed and finally decided to but maybe it is another of those too hot issues I should leave alone on this blog.
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