8 March 2008
Weekend Chat - 03/08/08
Posted by Joy Bischoff under: What's News .
13 Comments so far...
Jesse Says:
8 March 2008 at 1:04 am.
Here is a little of an op ed article that is convincing us to follow McCain. The message seems pretty clear to me. We have to show the country we are ready to move our party left and declare that a true conservative is what a moderate use to be. I guess where a true conservative use to be would just be an extremist:
Of course, every presidential election is about “change”; and with voters demonstrating strong desires to change Washington, Sen. McCain’s so-called “maverick” style has been bringing change to Washington throughout his career. Rather than shun this status, Republicans would do well to embrace Sen. McCain’s willingness to rock the boat from time to time. From the local level on up, Republican candidates must show voters they too are willing to reject the status quo this election cycle and not only promise — but deliver on — the change that American voters seek.
So, the sky is definitely not falling. And while some may nitpick at Sen. McCain’s record or even the words on this page, Republicans should still recognize the great opportunity we have in electing Sen. McCain this November. We all would be wise not to be misled by the cries of a few Chicken Littles. Instead, we must embrace this new opportunity to go out and show voters a strong Republican Party with candidates who can lead this nation and who will not simply inspire hope but show the American people the power of results.
Cameron Says:
8 March 2008 at 8:52 am.
Water board legislation to be vetoed.
Bush to veto waterboarding bill
By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - President Bush is poised to veto legislation that would bar the CIA from using waterboarding — a technique that simulates drowning — and other harsh interrogation methods on terror suspects.
The president planned to talk about the veto in his Saturday radio address.
Bush has said the bill would harm the government’s ability to prevent future attacks. Supporters of the legislation argue that it preserves the United States’ right to collect critical intelligence while boosting the country’s moral standing abroad.
“The bill would take away one of the most valuable tools on the war on terror, the CIA program to detain and question key terrorist leaders and operatives,” deputy White House press secretary Tony Fratto said Friday.
The bill would restrict the CIA to using only the 19 interrogation techniques listed in the Army field manual.
The legislation would bar the CIA from using waterboarding, sensory deprivation or other coercive methods to break a prisoner who refuses to answer questions. Those practices were banned by the military in 2006, but the president wants the harsh interrogation methods to be a part of the CIA’s toolbox.
Backers of the legislation, which cleared the House in December and won Senate approval last month, say the interrogation methods used by the military are sufficient.
“President Bush’s veto will be one of the most shameful acts of his presidency,” Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., said in a statement Friday. “Unless Congress overrides the veto, it will go down in history as a flagrant insult to the rule of law and a serious stain on the good name of America in the eyes of the world.”
He noted that the Army field manual contends that harsh interrogation is a “poor technique that yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say what he thinks the (interrogator) wants to hear.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080308/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_torture
Matt Says:
8 March 2008 at 10:08 am.
New ’super-spike’ might mean $200 a barrel oil
Goldman’s projections foretell persistent turbulence in energy prices
By Steve Gelsi, MarketWatch
Last update: 1:42 p.m. EST March 7, 2008
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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — With $100-a-barrel here for now, Goldman Sachs says $200 a barrel could be a reality in the not-too-distant future in the case of a “major disruption.”
Goldman on Friday also boosted by $10 the low end of its 2008-2012 projected range for crude to $60 a barrel — significantly lower than current prices, to be sure, but a possible mark for oil if “normalized” trends return to the marketplace.
With the dollar’s fall continuing and financial markets roiled by the credit crunch, commodities like oil have been drawing the fancy of increasing numbers of investors. Accordingly, Wall Street firms have been eager to adjust forecasts to incorporate fresh data on the global economy and energy supplies.
Angela Rogin Says:
8 March 2008 at 11:18 am.
Darn. Goldman Sachs isn’t being very cheery either.
T. Fan Says:
8 March 2008 at 12:52 pm.
The difference between democrats and republicans is that republicans understand the following quote by Ben.
” The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. you have to catch it yourself.” -Ben Franklin-
Joy Bischoff Says:
8 March 2008 at 1:21 pm.
Nice quote, T. Fan.
Putin: Successor as nationalistic as I am
NOVO-OGARYOVO, Russia (AP) — President Vladimir Putin said Saturday that the West should not expect relations with Russia to be any easier under his newly elected successor, who is “no less of a Russian nationalist” than Putin.
Putin said many observers view Dmitry Medvedev as a more liberal politician and hope Medvedev’s presidency will help ease strained relations between Moscow and the West.
“Some of our partners can’t wait to see me stop fulfilling my duties so that they could deal with another man,” Putin said at a news conference after talks with visiting German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
“But (Medvedev) is no less of a Russian nationalist — in a positive way — than me. And I don’t think it will be easier for our partners to deal with him,” he said.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-03-08-medvedev_N.htm
SGS Says:
8 March 2008 at 3:24 pm.
T.Fan… Sadly, the Republican party has departed from Ben’s wisdom, leaving behind Conservatives who now are “bad guys” because they are on the extreme right.
T. Fan Says:
8 March 2008 at 3:31 pm.
Well that’s certainly been true lately. I should have said conservatives.
E.E. Says:
8 March 2008 at 4:28 pm.
Jesse, I see what you mean about that article up top. When you ask yourself what this guy was trying to say, you see a definite pressure to move left for sure. I want to repost the worst of it:
McCain’s so-called “maverick” style has been bringing change to Washington throughout his career. Rather than shun this status, Republicans would do well to embrace Sen. McCain’s willingness to rock the boat from time to time. From the local level on up, Republican candidates must show voters they too are willing to reject the status quo this election cycle and not only promise — but deliver on — the change that American voters seek.
Joy Bischoff Says:
8 March 2008 at 5:29 pm.
Jesse and E.E., I agree with your assessment.
I just did a very weird thing. I joined up to receive daily emails from the country’s largest socialist society. I hope that doesn’t make me a socialist. I’m just trying to peek into their mindset and do research for an article.
Cameron Says:
8 March 2008 at 5:49 pm.
Right…sure. Now ve know you are a secret infiltrator here. Ve’re all going to vatching you very carefully now.
Joy Bischoff Says:
8 March 2008 at 6:07 pm.
I just got my first email. The director signed it “in solidarity”. I don’t know whether to laugh or shiver.
Carrie Says:
8 March 2008 at 6:16 pm.
Do we have to call you comrade now? 
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