21 February 2008
I’m Against Any Violence
Posted by Joy Bischoff under: Judaeo-Christian Values Under Attack; Presidential Election 2008; World Affairs .
Many of us here at In God We Trust are being inspired by our friends Vlajko and Bag of Bones because of their dedication to non-violence. They are in a situation that tries men’s souls and they are following the peaceable teachings of the Lord. These great Serbs are using reason and not giving way to anger that their rights are being trampled. We have had a long discussion today on another thread and it ended with the following comment by Bag of Bones that I want to post here for everyone to see.
Our Serbian friends’ fears are what mine have been today; that the few people who today resorted to violence will color the view of the world toward his country. I want him and every other Serb to know it will not color my view. I honor all Serbs who are for peace and have prayed many times today for them and will continue to do so. I hope for the day when wrongs are made right through the spreading of truth.
The Comment by Bag of Bones:
As I can see, you`ve already got the news from Vlajko. I won`t tell anything new, but just want to say that I`m against ANY violence.
That`s not the way.
After all, which is the difference between these hooligans today, and those ones who destroyed churches in march 2004?
The goal of today`s protest was a peaceful and dignified way of Serbian people, to say to the world, what do they think about secession of Kosovo and Metohija. That was all about. Even something like that is very hard to gain in this situation.
Few of them ruined this intention. These few also ruined the property of it`s own country. Are the traffic signs, or some stores also support the independece of Kosovo and Metohija?
I know now it would be very hard to people out of Serbia to think different about us, especially with this kind of informing in global medias. Our country will most probably take the consequences of these acts but at least I`m glad that members of In God We Trust, know now that things are “little beat” different here…
I also decided to move my husband’s comment up here because I feel he said some important things. He was answering a comment regarding showing both sides of the issue and just one point of view, the Serbs.
Roy Bischoff:
The US State Dept, the UN, the EU and the media are all telling the Albanian side. I can’t see why we can’t learn the lesson that every time we support terrorists, dictators, extremists, etc it comes back to haunt us. (Taliban in Afghanistan, Saddam Hussein [yes we originally put him in power], The Shah of Iran, Chiang Kai Shek [although they did establish a good government in Taiwan there was good reason why so many Chinese opposed him]) This is a very short list not meant to be exhaustive. If anyone out there can think of a good example of US nation building/supporting a particular leader post WWII I would appreciate the information. I just thought of Israel, which has been democratic from the beginning. I’m sure there must be more. Let me know.
We need to let our leaders in Government know how we feel about our foreign policy. It’s too bad only 2.6% of Americans know that the rest of the world exists (See John Cleese humor)
9 Comments so far...
Mac Says:
21 February 2008 at 9:38 pm.
Your courage in a time like this really does inspire me. I agree that it takes a braver man to control his anger than to let it go. I hope the day comes that you can have your sacred lands back and live in peace with the Muslims. I am afraid that first they have some lessons to learn about not forcing other people to believe like them.
Jan W. Says:
21 February 2008 at 9:52 pm.
Good for you, Bag of Bones. (when I write your name I feel like I am insulting you. I wonder where it comes from?)
Anyway, I would have thought bad things about your country today if I hadn’t been coming here. I have relatives in Seattle so I know that a few trouble makers can make it look bad for everyone like people were writing earlier today. This life is short and we know that the time will come when all truth will be known. Be strong.
Nalvy Says:
21 February 2008 at 10:22 pm.
I feel for you guys! I had no idea any of this was going on until I logged on today! I am so sorry for you are your plight. Know that you will be in my prayers and that I am with you in opposing any violence! I abhor it and the people who ruin good people’s chances with it.
Please keep your heads up and look forward…there are brighter days ahead.
Joy Bischoff Says:
21 February 2008 at 11:10 pm.
Here is the official policy. The article I took this from started by saying that the Serb mob stormed the embassy and left one dead. They didn’t explain that it was a Serb who died. Biased reporting.
Storming of embassy in Serbia sparks U.S. outrage
Embarrassed, Serbia said it regretted what it called acts of isolated vandals who did not represent a nation which, while bitter at Kosovo’s declaration of independence on Sunday, did not want further violence.
“The acts that were committed are absolutely unacceptable, absolutely regrettable,” Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic told Reuters in an interview. “They hurt Serbia’s image abroad.”
Vlajko Says:
22 February 2008 at 7:42 am.
As you had read I am against violence,but also against unjustice.
You could do everything to Serb with friendship but with force nothing…
There is saying:
Na Kosovu ce se videti ko je vera a ko nevera…..
(At Kosovo you will see who is right(or faithful) and who is wrong)
Everyone is judged at Kosovo,not only the Serb or Albanian but everyone else in the world.And this is true,you’ll see.
Cameron Says:
22 February 2008 at 9:26 am.
The two news headlines at Yahoo are this about the Serbians and then about the Turks in Northern Iraq attacking the Kurds. Why is it okay for the 90% Albanian population to break away from Serbia but nobody cares about autonomy for the Kurds? They have been treated worse by both Iraq and Turkey than the Albanians have been treated both nobody is trying to get them their own country.
In the article below, the leader of Kosovo said the way the Serbs are acting now is the same as when Milosevic was in there. That’s stretching things a whole lot. I only copied the part I think is most important. The violence is making it look bad and will make it harder for people to believe the truth about the situation.
Serbs protesters attack UN police
Kostunica appealed for an end to the violence.
“This directly damages our … national interests. All those who support the fake state of Kosovo are rejoicing at the sight of violence in Belgrade,” he said. But he made no mention of the damaged embassies.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080222/ap_on_re_eu/serbia_kosovo
E.E. Says:
22 February 2008 at 9:44 am.
Hang in there Vlajko. I have a feeling that your non-violent attitude is going to be tested in the coming days. I think if I were Serbian that I would want to fight to not lose Kosovo just like we fought the Civil War to keep our nation together. But I wouldn’t give in to that desire because of the big difference between the two situations. The UN, the EU and the US are against it and I think it would be impossible and would only take the blood of your people. So I would peacefully demonstrate, try and get the truth to the world, pray and be patient. Things change in this world.
Mac Says:
22 February 2008 at 9:50 am.
I was trying earlier to think of what to say to Vlajko. It is such a totally impossible situation. Anyway E.E. I agree totally with what you said. That’s how I feel.
CindyL. Says:
22 February 2008 at 1:05 pm.
So their justification for taking away the land from the Serbs is that there are more Albanians there right? What about the northern part of Kosovo where it is mostly Serbs? How do they justify that? Shouldn’t the reasoning be the same, that since it is mostly Serbs then it shouldn’t be given to Kosovo? The Serbs are worried about their fellow Serbian Christians who are still living in Kosovo but nobody else seems to care about them.
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