17 February 2008
Weekend Chat - 02/17/08
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Jesse Says:
17 February 2008 at 11:19 am.
What a shock…NOT! Ron Paul and Mitt Romney couldn’t say anything when it happened to them but first Huckabee and now Obama can come out about voter fraud. I wonder if anything will be done about it.
OBAMA ROBBED IN NY
February 16, 2008 — Barack Obama’s primary-night results were strikingly under recorded in several congressional districts around the city - in some cases leaving him with zero votes when, in fact, he had pulled in hundreds, the Board of Elections said today
Unofficial primary results gave Obama no votes in nearly 80 districts, including Harlem’s 94th and other historically black areas - but many of those initial tallies proved to be wildly off the mark, the Board of Elections confirmed.
Truth is, in some districts getting a recount, the senator from Illinois is even close to defeating Hillary Clinton.
Initial results in the 94th District, for example, showed a 141-0 sweep for the New York senator, but Board of Elections spokeswoman Valerie Vazquez said today that the ongoing recount had changed the tally to 261-136.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02162008/news/regionalnews/obama_robbed_in_ny_97932.htm
Matt Says:
17 February 2008 at 2:06 pm.
Who knows Jesse, maybe Hillary will win after all with bullcrap like this going on. What a mess.
Cavetrollhead Says:
17 February 2008 at 2:45 pm.
Good heads up Jesse.
I still think that California was fraudulent.
Think about this. With 35% returns in, in CA. Romney was 20% down. Then when 100% were in, he was only 8% down.
It is a statistical impossibility to go from 20% down to 8% down with this large a sampling. Think about it. 35% of votes returned equals hundreds of thousands of votes counted. Statistically it should remain 20% down with a very very slim margin of variation. Most polls that claim a 4% margin of error on a sampling of less than one thousand. I can’t understand why I haven’t heard more on this! The tally had to have been tampered with.
Please someone who reads this tell me that you see what I am seeing- or tell me how I am wrong and how this is not obviously fraud!!
Matt Says:
17 February 2008 at 4:19 pm.
Keeping an eye on tensions with Russia. The UN, EU and US support Kosovo independence so this makes things worse.
Russia denounces Kosovo declaration
MOSCOW - Russia denounced Kosovo’s independence declaration Sunday, warning that the move threatened to ignite a new conflict in the Balkans and calling on NATO and U.N. officials in the territory to nix the decision.
Russia requested a meeting of the U.N. Security Council, which held closed-door talks Sunday afternoon. Russia, which has veto power on the council, wants the council to renew efforts — long-since pronounced dead by the U.S. and other Western nations — to reach a negotiated settlement of Kosovo’s status.
Kosovo’s parliament approved the declaration of independence from Serbia, backed by the U.S. and European allies. Kosovo had formally remained a part of Serbia even though it has been administered by the U.N. and NATO since 1999, when NATO airstrikes ended former Yugoslav leader Slobodan Milosevic’s crackdown on ethnic Albanian separatists.
Russia’s Foreign Ministry, lashing out within minutes of the declaration, said Russia supports Serbia’s “just demands to restore the country’s territorial integrity.” It said nations backing Kosovo’s claim were supporting separatism and would shake “the foundations of a world order that has developed over decades.”
Russia claimed the declaration violates the U.N. Charter ensuring the territorial integrity of member nations and threatens “the escalation of tension and ethnic violence in the region, a new conflict in the Balkans.”
The ministry urged the U.N. mission and NATO forces in Kosovo to carry out their mandate by “annulling the decisions of the Pristina government organs and taking severe administrative measures against them.”
Russia has stressed its opposition to any decision on Kosovo’s status that is not accepted by Serbia. It has warned that recognition of Kosovo by the United States and other nations would encourage separatists in the former Soviet Union, across Europe and around the world.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080217/ap_on_re_eu/russia_kosovo
Matt Says:
17 February 2008 at 4:23 pm.
Sorry, can’t tell you that you’re wrong. If it had just been one or maybe even two states but there is just too much of t his. That is one reason I can’t vote for the three main candidates. Voter fraud is being used and I won’t be a part of that. Actually I think Obama is not getting help there because the Clinton machine is so strong but he is in the same boat anyway.
Roy Bischoff Says:
17 February 2008 at 7:10 pm.
A political science professor I took several classes from once told me that US politicians would never allow a fraud-proof voting system. It would force them to be honest about how they got votes. Our voting system relies on the honesty of people in different positions throughout the voting process. Hopefully it is not a shock to people that there are dishonest people around. Besides, aren’t they doing it for the good of the country?
Maybe we should have the UN observe our elections.
Jesse Says:
17 February 2008 at 7:13 pm.
Well since its only the Balkans and its only Russia vs the EU and the US let’s send McCain over there so that cooler heads can prevail.
Saddened Says:
17 February 2008 at 8:11 pm.
If you say that even one voting official in even one state could do anything underhanded, you are a whacko extremist and no one will ever listen to anything you have to say again.
What are those percentage numbers about how many Americans lie? 98%
Stumpy Says:
17 February 2008 at 9:16 pm.
My mama taught me never to lie when I could sit and never to sit when I could stand so I will stand for anything but lying.
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