14 February 2008
Strong Words from Pastor Baldwin
Posted by Joy Bischoff under: Judaeo-Christian Values Under Attack; Presidential Election 2008 .
I have been hesitating all day whether to post this article or not. What Pastor Baldwin says is so important that I finally decided to share this. I hope it does not offend any of our regular readers. I grew up attending many churches and I know many good Christians from all denominations whom I respect and most of them would probably agree with Pastor Baldwin. This is not a personal attack toward any specific group of Christians.
WHAT’S WITH ALL THESE CLUELESS CHRISTIANS
By Pastor Chuck Baldwin
February 12, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
“For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.” Mark 13:22 (KJV)
“And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.” II Thessalonians 2:11 (KJV)
What’s with all these clueless Christians? How is it that people who have the benefit of the indwelling Holy Spirit, and the warning and insight of the Sacred Scriptures–not to mention a rich Christian heritage here in America–can be so ignorant, blind, and naïve? Yes, the majority of evangelical Christians seem to be all of the above. The problem has passed being serious: it is catastrophic!
How is it that we have drifted away from being an informed, active, knowledgeable, and dedicated group of highly motivated Christian patriots to a group of impotent and anemic sheep? Our Christian forebears must be turning over in their graves, because we are in the process of squandering the greatest human sacrifice–save that of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ–ever made: the sacrifice of America’s Founding Fathers.
The problem is manifold, of course. For the most part, our pastors have become glorified politicians and business executives. As attorneys are not schooled in the Constitution, today’s ministers are not schooled in the Scriptures. They are motivational speakers, salesmen, and business managers. The Bible is only used as a side reference, if at all. It is not taught or preached literally. Pastors go through the Bible the way people go through a salad bar: gleaning a few sweet-tasting morsels and rejecting everything that appears the least bit distasteful.
Then there is the “fit-in-with-the-brethren” mentality. The politicos in Washington, D.C., have nothing on many pastors’ fellowship groups. Fitting in with the denomination seems to be a far greater priority than being an independent man of God. And, of course, let’s not forget the importance of not “making waves” with the deacons, elders, or church trustees. In a word, today’s pastors have been very effectively neutered.
Another problem is the way our pastors and churches have become “success” driven. Churches used to focus on truth and discipleship. No more. The church-growth movement of the last three decades has produced a generation of Christians much more concerned about crowds, buildings, and activities than they are fidelity to truth. Church has become a numbers game where success is measured by attendance and offerings.
There is yet another problem: today’s churches are completely enamored with power. No, not the power of God. They are completely infatuated with the power of men. Rich men. Popular men. Influential men. Celebrities. Politicians. Millionaires. Sports stars, etc.
Yet, listen to what God tells us about rich and powerful men. “Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?” James 2:6 (KJV)
Historically, it has always been the super-wealthy, super-powerful elements of society that have brought tyranny and persecution to God’s people. It is the political and business elite who have trampled people’s freedoms and liberties, enslaved their children, and ravaged their lands and properties.
Nothing has changed: the super-elite in the United States and Europe are continuing to do what they have always done. Both the Republican and Democrat parties are controlled by those who desire to create a globalistic society in which they will control the world’s materials and peoples.
Both George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush have contributed to the tyrannical goals and ambitions of the super-elite. So has Bill Clinton. If John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama is elected, they will follow in the globalist footsteps of their predecessors.
The Christian professions of our political leaders mean nothing. Absolutely nothing! Putting an “R” behind his or her name also means nothing. Neither does calling oneself a “conservative” mean anything. Our political leaders are mostly walking in lockstep with the evil designs of the super-wealthy. Ditto for the executives who control our major media.
And our Christians and ministers seem to be absolutely clueless.
James Dobson endorses Mike Huckabee, as does Jerry Falwell, Jr., while Gary Bauer endorses John McCain. Yet, the truth is, one is as bad as the other. In fact, Huckabee is posturing himself to be McCain’s running mate after McCain wins the nomination. Does anyone really believe that Mike Huckabee would turn down an invitation from John McCain to be his running mate? Get serious! Mike Huckabee would support the liberal, Big-Government John McCain with all of the enthusiasm he could muster. Why? Because Huckabee, himself, is a Big-Government liberal who has joined ideological forces with the super-elite who run both parties.
And no one within the Religious Right seems to get it. Say you are “pro-life” and “pro-family” and you are “in.” Forget the Constitution. Forget national sovereignty and independence. Forget the principles of sound money. Forget the Bill of Rights. Forget “Just War” theory. Forget non-interventionism. Forget protecting American jobs and manufacturing. Forget putting America first. It’s all about getting along with the establishment, having a seat at the table, and enjoying the perks of power.
Christians are supposed to be different. We are supposed to think differently. We are clearly commanded to “be not conformed to this world.”
In addition, as Americans, our heritage and history is that of being “non-conformist.” We loved liberty, freedom, and independence. We recognized no sovereign authority, save that of Jesus Christ. We believed in self-reliance and hard work. We didn’t expect government handouts or charity. We believed in disciplining our children and did not expect that they would learn their values from government schools. We viewed human government with deep suspicion and demanded that it be held in check by powerful Bible preaching and by the constraints and restrictions of the U.S. Constitution.
Remember, it was the political and business elite who killed the Old Testament prophets, persecuted the early church, and crucified the Lord Jesus Christ. It was the political and business elite who oppressed our Pilgrim forebears. It was the political and business elite who tried to stamp out liberty and independence from the American colonies. And it is those same political and business elite who are forcing globalism, socialism, and fascism upon the American people today.
And our pastors and churches seem to be absolutely clueless.
11 Comments so far...
E.E. Says:
14 February 2008 at 4:51 pm.
I copied the end of an article posted by Stephen at CoMMitted to Romney. I had just read that when I came back here and saw this so I thought it applied:
No Mormons Need Apply
By Christopher Orlet
The American Spectator online
What else besides Romney’s faith can explain the ex-governor’s poor showing? Romney had the solid backing not only of conservative pundits and politicians, but he had the overwhelming endorsement of Big Talk Radio, including Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage. These hosts were, and are, rabidly anti-McCain and Huckabee.
Now with Mitt Romney’s departure Republicans have two liberal Baptists to choose from, neither one with a small government bone in his body. Is it possible that evangelical Republicans were so anti-Mormon that they cut a deal with the devil?
That’s a turn of phrase, unless one seriously suspects that Huckabee or McCain is the devil. Apparently some true believers believed Romney was.
Hank Says:
14 February 2008 at 5:00 pm.
I think my priest would agree with this. The part is good about if you say you are pro life then you are in. That is about all McCain has going for him, that and the war but even that scares the daylights out of me. I’m afraid he will provoke Iran and they have that pact with all those communists.
Matt Says:
14 February 2008 at 5:02 pm.
I wish my pastor felt this way but he doesn’t. I know some other that do. Maybe the word will spread, IDK.
Cameron Says:
14 February 2008 at 5:12 pm.
Oh man, I just went over to Committed to Romney to read the whole article E.E. wrote about. I’m literally sick to my stomach. Ann Marie, who owns and runs the biggest Mitt site has officially endorsed McCain. Most of the comments so far are sheep following after her. She has a lot of power and this will persuade a lot of people. They are going to get away with it. The Republican Establishment will never listen to us if everyone gets in line with their demands. They will be so full of themselves they will be more out of control than ever.
Joy Bischoff Says:
14 February 2008 at 5:24 pm.
I went, I saw, I commented. This is hard. I have to say I respectfully and strongly disagree with her reasoning. If only she did it based on her own convictions and not only because Mitt did.
E.E. Says:
14 February 2008 at 5:28 pm.
I can’t believe it. I am so glad for the discussion here about kings and big business being the center instead of values that are inspired from God and found in the Constitution. I am not going to change my center point. I just can’t believe she can’t see how shallow it is to give up her own God-given right to use her free will and make her own decisions. It’s horrible that so many will follow her. How can we make a statement that we don’t want to be dictated to if we knuckle under. Are we so freaking weak? I need to calm down. This is not a good day.
The Realist Says:
14 February 2008 at 5:32 pm.
I learned to have a lot of faith in Mitt. He may be right. I’m not sure any more. I need to take a mental break from all of this. It is so darn confusing.
CindyL. Says:
14 February 2008 at 5:50 pm.
I think it is all very clear. Anyone who reads everything at the top and who read the discussion (that I wish would be put in blogs worth rereading along with its important comments) can’t help but see how important it is that we don’t follow a man just like Joy said. We follow the Constitution. People are saying we have to hold the party together but remember that teeter totter thing someone said? If we don’t keep liberals balanced it is all over. They have won and in the long run we are dead in the water. I am young but my parents encouraged me to read and study things out in my mind. Support McCain if you want but not because someone tells you too.
Nalvy Says:
14 February 2008 at 6:16 pm.
I am young myself and I may be called naive but I do know that our country is falling people and I want to do all i can so with that said I know that not voting for the lesser of all evils is that right thing.
Chuck C Says:
14 February 2008 at 6:33 pm.
Speaking of mindless parrots… have you looked at the U.S. Senate website lately? Very oftern96 % to 98% of our Senators vote a straight party line. I am extracting and color coding many of these votes and will share them on this site later. It is an illuminating exercise that proves one thing… when our elected officials get to Washington they lose the guts it took to get there. They have become mindless parrots. There is little independent thought, and what little there is is stifled for fear of losing standing in the party and leadership opportunities.
Now, WHO ARE THE PARROTS?
Sharon Anderson Says:
14 February 2008 at 9:19 pm.
“…when our elected officials get to Washington they lose the guts it took to get there.” A notable exception seems to be Ron Paul. Check his stand on issues http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/ and then check out his voting record especially his record on appropriations. http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=296 I challenge any of you to find another representative that has been more committed to limiting big government or who stands more firmly by Constitutional principles. He doesn’t have a “snowball’s chance in hell” of being nominated but he is effectively educating many across our country. I think writing his name in is one way conservatives could vote avoid voting for the lessor of two evils.
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